This was so interesting to me because I did not at all think @Theresa was an Obama era millennial media type urbanista with a trust fund lol! In my mind I had some idea of her living on some Midwestern pastoral hobby farm with a couple little kids. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever for me to think that, especially given that I read her first Optimizer' Wife piece which described her life quite clearly. But I thought it, anyway, I think solely because of her romantic era profile portrait. I guess that shows the power of an image to just lodge an idea in your head even when you know actual facts to the contrary. Though who knows, maybe that WILL be her life in a couple years? 😉
Totally agree with your convo about it being low status to be super obsessed with looks to the point that you truly care if someone is an 8.65 versus a 9.35. The only people who think like that are the autistic types who have little to no experience with actual women and they don't even realize it's about their own dream of impressing other men who don't respect them, and has very little at all to do with women. When I worked at a tech company it was filled with those guys and their favorite hobby all day long was tearing apart and critiquing models and celebrities, like it was a contest amongst each other who had the most ridiculous and picky standards. No guys who get laid regularly talk or think like that. For normal people there are only four categories: no in every circumstance, would if drunk or super horny and didn't have to see them again, would, and holy fucking shit where did you come from there's no one else in the room. That's it.
Unfortunately, I can barely keep houseplants alive lol
>like it was a contest amongst each other who had the most ridiculous and picky standards.
Yeah, I think this is it. These conversations are a way for them to put each other down and try to assert status. But it’s so incel coded, especially in mixed company!
Well you never know! I never had the remotest interest in plants, could barely keep a cactus alive, and the thought of working in dirt outdoors was anathema to me, because I might see or god forbid touch a worm, and ew gross. But I swear to God I just woke up one day and became Martha Stewart overnight with a full-blown OCD level gardening obsession. I have no idea how that happened but now spend every bit of spare time in the garden or garden store and just like...THINKING about my plants...which even I realize is insane bc plants are boring, yet I can't stop. It turns out this is very common - almost universal - and happens to lots of people in their 40s and there's no explanation as far as I can tell. One day you just suddenly become obsessed with some old-person hobby that you never understood how your parents cared about, and it takes over your life. COVID may have accelerated it a bit. But one day, people who do things like buy RVs or travel around to Civil War sites and museums, or spend all their time gardening makes sense to you and you can't seem to stop it. So don't write off my hobby farm fantasy for you just yet. ;)
The fact that you both knew the exact % prevalence of foot fetishism vs homosexuality to compare them on-the-fly is a kind of creativity you don’t see anywhere else.
Reflexology and acupuncture both emphasize the foot’s deep connection to the rest of the body, so it makes a lot of sense as an erotic target.
I liked the part about looks and "diminishing returns" above a 6-7/10.
I telk young guys (I'm 38): choose a woman who is attractive enough to not repulse you on her ugliest day of the year (or your most neurotic day, depending on your temperament).
If she meets that threshold, from that point on ONLY personality matters and additional attractiveness is a bonus at best. In fact, it can be wise to even look at a woman too far out of your league showing interest with suspiscion.
I have known a lot of dudes who live miserable lives because they have an extremely high standard for the looks of their partner and often a specific type as well (eg 5'4 brounette with slight tan and busty). The hyper specific physical criteria leaves them no room to select for anything else. So every single instagram model girlfriend this unimpressive dude gets either has an objectively horrible personality or one that is totally incompatible with his, leading to great suffering.
And thats not even touching on the decision of women who deliberately date less attractive men because they are so much easier to manipulate.
It was the best podcast I learned so much about what Lilly Phillips means for the direction of society and why Sydney Sweeney looks slightly fatter in her backyard photos and other important hot topics you really should listen
Women's most physically attractive years align precisely with their peak fertility years .Hypersexualisation of (white )women is occurring at the same time as the collapse in birth rates. Obviously not a singular factor in that development but a major one.
This was so interesting to me because I did not at all think @Theresa was an Obama era millennial media type urbanista with a trust fund lol! In my mind I had some idea of her living on some Midwestern pastoral hobby farm with a couple little kids. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever for me to think that, especially given that I read her first Optimizer' Wife piece which described her life quite clearly. But I thought it, anyway, I think solely because of her romantic era profile portrait. I guess that shows the power of an image to just lodge an idea in your head even when you know actual facts to the contrary. Though who knows, maybe that WILL be her life in a couple years? 😉
Totally agree with your convo about it being low status to be super obsessed with looks to the point that you truly care if someone is an 8.65 versus a 9.35. The only people who think like that are the autistic types who have little to no experience with actual women and they don't even realize it's about their own dream of impressing other men who don't respect them, and has very little at all to do with women. When I worked at a tech company it was filled with those guys and their favorite hobby all day long was tearing apart and critiquing models and celebrities, like it was a contest amongst each other who had the most ridiculous and picky standards. No guys who get laid regularly talk or think like that. For normal people there are only four categories: no in every circumstance, would if drunk or super horny and didn't have to see them again, would, and holy fucking shit where did you come from there's no one else in the room. That's it.
Unfortunately, I can barely keep houseplants alive lol
>like it was a contest amongst each other who had the most ridiculous and picky standards.
Yeah, I think this is it. These conversations are a way for them to put each other down and try to assert status. But it’s so incel coded, especially in mixed company!
Well you never know! I never had the remotest interest in plants, could barely keep a cactus alive, and the thought of working in dirt outdoors was anathema to me, because I might see or god forbid touch a worm, and ew gross. But I swear to God I just woke up one day and became Martha Stewart overnight with a full-blown OCD level gardening obsession. I have no idea how that happened but now spend every bit of spare time in the garden or garden store and just like...THINKING about my plants...which even I realize is insane bc plants are boring, yet I can't stop. It turns out this is very common - almost universal - and happens to lots of people in their 40s and there's no explanation as far as I can tell. One day you just suddenly become obsessed with some old-person hobby that you never understood how your parents cared about, and it takes over your life. COVID may have accelerated it a bit. But one day, people who do things like buy RVs or travel around to Civil War sites and museums, or spend all their time gardening makes sense to you and you can't seem to stop it. So don't write off my hobby farm fantasy for you just yet. ;)
Omg the Ann Coulter & Bill Maher pic is so perfect. Great talking to you!
This conversation was just as whimsical as I'd hoped.
The fact that you both knew the exact % prevalence of foot fetishism vs homosexuality to compare them on-the-fly is a kind of creativity you don’t see anywhere else.
Reflexology and acupuncture both emphasize the foot’s deep connection to the rest of the body, so it makes a lot of sense as an erotic target.
I liked the part about looks and "diminishing returns" above a 6-7/10.
I telk young guys (I'm 38): choose a woman who is attractive enough to not repulse you on her ugliest day of the year (or your most neurotic day, depending on your temperament).
If she meets that threshold, from that point on ONLY personality matters and additional attractiveness is a bonus at best. In fact, it can be wise to even look at a woman too far out of your league showing interest with suspiscion.
I have known a lot of dudes who live miserable lives because they have an extremely high standard for the looks of their partner and often a specific type as well (eg 5'4 brounette with slight tan and busty). The hyper specific physical criteria leaves them no room to select for anything else. So every single instagram model girlfriend this unimpressive dude gets either has an objectively horrible personality or one that is totally incompatible with his, leading to great suffering.
And thats not even touching on the decision of women who deliberately date less attractive men because they are so much easier to manipulate.
Stay safe out there
"Dasha is so sexy because she looks kinda retarded and its so fucking hot". Yes.
"I wouldn't say neo-Nazi..." What about the Morrakiu collab?
The collab was weird bc it was more edgy than my style and less edgy than his
A lot of your content is just exploring the sexual dynamics between the sexes.
I feel with the endless discussion about Lily Phillips I'm kind of bored of that.
No disrespect to you, but I only listened to the bit where I was mentioned, and it didn't give me any new information.
It was the best podcast I learned so much about what Lilly Phillips means for the direction of society and why Sydney Sweeney looks slightly fatter in her backyard photos and other important hot topics you really should listen
Women's most physically attractive years align precisely with their peak fertility years .Hypersexualisation of (white )women is occurring at the same time as the collapse in birth rates. Obviously not a singular factor in that development but a major one.