Sai Pandit - Entropy, Cultural Revival, and The Empyreal College

On today’s episode of Walt Right Perspectives I am joined by my very dear friend

Sai Ψ

, who writes here on Substack at Shəlaka Uvach.

Last year Sai distinguished herself as one of the earliest and most important contributors to the Walt Right community, and also collaborated with me directly to discuss several important topics, including The Brahmin Question, early puberty in girls, and that perennial topic of female agency.

Recently she’s been working with fellow podcast alum

Darian Δ

on an ambitious project called The Empyreal College, which she joins me today to discuss.

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Topics Include:

• What is the Empyreal College?

• Their plan to secure a beautiful physical locale to host their activities

• Zoomer dead eyes and inborne nihilism indicate a hunger for genuine meaning

• How avant-garde artistic / philosophical movements can avoid donor capture

• Walt defends his constant rebranding and novelty seeking

• Walt’s goal to culturally enrich STEM guys while simultaneously helping artsy/philosophical people become more financially capable

• Everyone wants their own status hierarchy to have precedence over others, but virtually no one is willing to openly admit this

• Darian Δ
  ’s nomenclature of “intellectual spikiness” (think a kind of highly instrumentalized cognitive overspecialization)

• The necessity of being able to switch nimbly between different resolutions

• Debating random assholes on 4chan gives you a broad liberal arts education

• The critical importance of rigorous member curation for private communities—how Tortuga has handled this and how Empyrean intends to

• How startups like Tortuga leverage entrepreneurial drive in early joiners

• Walt and Sai debate the merits of viewing people as cogs and whether it’s essential for an ambitious institution to incorporate scalable processes

• Walter and Sai debate whether it’s even possible for a non-entropic or instrumentalizing system to exist

• Walter contends that anyone capable of leading a large organization will almost certainly have narc tendencies (or will need to develop them to be effective)

• Western capitalist democracy will always obliterate its competitors and Walt fears this puts us on an inexorable path to autogenocide via VR porn pods

• Sai argues that Walter’s understanding of the Faustian Spirit is incomplete

• Walt argues that every relationship is transactional, and that what people actually object to is a kind of lower-order and highly explicit hooker transactionality

• Sai intends to acquire influence not through scalability but rather through rigorous curation that inspires similar efforts polycentrically

• Scalability and curation ought to be seen as yin and yang

• Walt argues that global realpolitik will always select for the most brutally extractive and scalable system possible

• Sai argues that IQ Shredders and global brain drain have created an entropic system that is fundamentally unsustainable—Walt disagrees

• Walt argues the West has historically been successful because it leaned heavily into asymmetric / entropic systems (where not being sustainable is a feature and not a bug) and used the resulting crises to spur rapid innovation / expansion

• Most people get stressed having to navigate a single status hierarchy and will pee their pants at the prospect of needing to handle multiple ones

• Low conscientiousness people generally need to adopt highly Faustian life strategies to not be a giant loser

• Is Empyrean gonna be an Indian thing?

• Sai’s goal to stimulate an authentic indigenous spiritual impulse in America

• Sai keeps getting in trouble because Walt antagonizes her anti-Walt friends in Notes by theatrically talking like a supervillain

• The American cultural ecology lends itself well to developing an Indian-style syncretic folk religion

• How to influence mass culture without getting contaminated oneself

• How intentional or deliberate is anyone’s behavior?

• Sai contends that people who aren’t conscious / self-aware will be offended when elites talk about designing virtuous incentive structures and interpret that drive as self-interested / exploitative (Walt thinks such peepo should kill themselves).

• Historic efforts in India to stoke resentment against Brahmins

• Walter specifies his aggressive classism isn’t about money but personal agency—he actually comes from White trash and has a contempt for the gay Class War mindset that’s trapped his own family in a cycle of poverty and dysfunction

• Sai promotes the Dirtbag Right discord group she’s recently been involved with

• The book Sai is writing with fellow podcast alumna

  Meghan Bell
  , which expands upon Meghan’s excellent article The Androgynous Mind

• David Bowie / Tilde Swinton androgyny versus It’s Pat androgyny

• Do wordcels hate women?

• Hemispheric thinking (Jews as left hem and blackpeepo as right hem)

• Jews and Irish as cultural foils (see Walt’s comment)

• Walter’s contempt for right hemispheric cognition

• Recently we’ve largely outsourced right hemispheric thinking to blacks (think white women using black reaction gifs etc.)

• You will never destroy bugmanism by denigrating the “laptop class,” but rather by channeling Spinoza-type autodidacts within that stratum

• Walter argues that the more brutally instrumentalist one acts in his moneymaking the more authentic he can be in his art and intellectualism

• Walt’s argues a ruthless Captive Cavewoman Syndrome is mechanistically intrinsic to female cognition and men simply need to game around this

• When wypipo killed their pagan spiritualism via Christianity those daemons were simply reincarnated as ideologies like libertarianism and communism

• Walter argues that as we enter into the Age of Aquarius we need to accept western spirituality is dead and must be recreated on a very primitive level

• Heavy amphetamine use will often place you in an overtly antagonistic relationship with your unconscious mind

• Brahmins vs. Jews

• Why haven’t Brahmins in India seceded into their own nation state ?

• Temple donations have become life coaching fees

• The importance of ritual in sanitizing and personalizing transactional or instrumentalizing types of social interaction

• Why Hinduism can’t be exported cleanly into America

• Walter argues that you can’t override the transactional instrumentalizing gear mindset but rather need to sublimate it via rhetorical judo

• Western Desis and Wypipo Hindus are going to be more propositional about their Hinduism than Indians because of Protestant cultural influence

• A lot of immigrant communities in America are significantly more authentic than the modern populations of their mother country

• Despite being an immigrant herself Sai is far more anti-immigrant than Walt

• Walt’s enduring fascination with H1B Pajeet

• Does America have literally anything uniting us these days?

• Sai highlights the value to a quieter approach to wielding power

• Going forward Walter intends to platform his lieutenants more so that Tortuga becomes less entwined with his own personal brand