I view French integration (and most other countries for the matter!) as much better than American integration. But yeah, France being the "bastion" of liberalism, tolerance, and acceptance isn't true.
Then again people say "There's nothing to assimilate to here", which I do get, but don't think is true at all in at least certain parts of the U.S.
I view French integration (and most other countries for the matter!) as much better than American integration. But yeah, France being the "bastion" of liberalism, tolerance, and acceptance isn't true.
Then again people say "There's nothing to assimilate to here", which I do get, but don't think is true at all in at least certain parts of the U.S.
Because France has French as an official language, while the U.S. (and most other Anglosphere countries) don't. Not only that, but also the mandatory civics class that immigrants are required to take to even immigrate compels them to assimilate. The U.S. doesn't even have such a thing.
Imo I think we should go full on Japan/Richard Henry Pratt integration. I think this is the only way of going forward short of balkanisation.
In French culture one is to be "French" above all else. The American concept of e pluribus unum, on its best days, gives people the opportunity to continue their cultural traditions within the broader American landscape.
Many of the people who *do not assimilate* arrive in France already speaking French. In fact, those *born* here *(first generation) are less likely to be employed than their parents.
The civics classes are, to a degree, helpful, but by not means a fait accompli. I wrote about my experience here.
I don't know if that is necessarily true. France is seeing a revival of Brittany, Occitania, and other independence movements. "E Pluribus Unum" was only used to an extent that the U.S. would remain a Confederation/a loose Federal Republic. There was never any real attempt to solidify the regional cultures into a singular American culture (which George Washington and especially John Adams Sr. and Jr. wanted).
Switzerland imo have always done it better than America, especially since they have official languages on their national level, unlike we.
Same goes with America and vice versa too. Infact, so many Americans and other Anglophones are assimilating to the arriving cultures, and we don't even try to assimilate them.
Still better than nothing. The 14th amendment granting parents the right to raise children as they see fit is a big mistake.
Read your article, and it's a great article. That said, what works there won't work here.
I view French integration (and most other countries for the matter!) as much better than American integration. But yeah, France being the "bastion" of liberalism, tolerance, and acceptance isn't true.
Then again people say "There's nothing to assimilate to here", which I do get, but don't think is true at all in at least certain parts of the U.S.
Why do you view French integration as better than American? (Sincere question ;) )
Because France has French as an official language, while the U.S. (and most other Anglosphere countries) don't. Not only that, but also the mandatory civics class that immigrants are required to take to even immigrate compels them to assimilate. The U.S. doesn't even have such a thing.
Imo I think we should go full on Japan/Richard Henry Pratt integration. I think this is the only way of going forward short of balkanisation.
I disagree.
In French culture one is to be "French" above all else. The American concept of e pluribus unum, on its best days, gives people the opportunity to continue their cultural traditions within the broader American landscape.
Many of the people who *do not assimilate* arrive in France already speaking French. In fact, those *born* here *(first generation) are less likely to be employed than their parents.
The civics classes are, to a degree, helpful, but by not means a fait accompli. I wrote about my experience here.
https://undervineandfigtree.substack.com/p/the-far-right-is-the-best-choice
I knew you would disagree.
I don't know if that is necessarily true. France is seeing a revival of Brittany, Occitania, and other independence movements. "E Pluribus Unum" was only used to an extent that the U.S. would remain a Confederation/a loose Federal Republic. There was never any real attempt to solidify the regional cultures into a singular American culture (which George Washington and especially John Adams Sr. and Jr. wanted).
Switzerland imo have always done it better than America, especially since they have official languages on their national level, unlike we.
Same goes with America and vice versa too. Infact, so many Americans and other Anglophones are assimilating to the arriving cultures, and we don't even try to assimilate them.
Still better than nothing. The 14th amendment granting parents the right to raise children as they see fit is a big mistake.
Read your article, and it's a great article. That said, what works there won't work here.