In this long-awaited episode of Walt Right Perspectives I debate my good friend
, aThe Jewish Question and immigration / bleaching / enclavism receive particular focus. We tried to fit in foreign policy as well, but the episode would have been five hours long if we covered that in adequate detail, so we opted instead to defer it.
This was easily one of the best episodes of this podcast so far, and I highly recommend that everyone in my audience listen in. If nothing else you’ll get a great sense as to how different factions of the Dissident Right / Post Alt Right are situated in 2025.
Also if you’re Jewish read this.
Topics discussed:
Why Norm calls himself a “Nationalist” instead of a “White Nationalist”
Aesthetic divides between and within the Post Alt Right and Dissident Right
Where do Norm and Walt actually disagree?
Moral sensibilities often serve as allegorical shorthand for cognitive biases that seriously impact life outcomes (e.g. “easy come, easy go”)
The nature of the White man’s Faustian Spirit—can you meaningfully separate Faust and Mephistopheles in a Manichean way? Walt says they’re the same.
When you rely on asymmetric life strategies you have to accept tremendous downside risk alongside the chance of striking gold
Walt argues against the Christian tendency to separate things into bad vs. good, which typically scale alongside each other and go hand in hand
Why are so many White Nationalist leaders Hapas or Mischlings?
The increased incidence of mental illness in mixed race people often accompanies a certain manic energy that easily becomes agency / vitality
Mixed race people frequently become better at flexible social performance
The etymology of the word “person”—it’s a reference to the mask you wear
Is social performativity inherently dishonest, or can it actually be more authentic than instinctive and unmediated behavior?
Why White ingroup sentiment is coded as low status—Walt argues the highest status White guys only benefit from the presence of nonwhites
Elite libtard White men are anti-white and anti-male to pull up the ladder because they know women and minorities aren’t a threat
How earnest are people who moralize their politics? Is it just hollow obfuscation to cover the cynical pursuit of their self-interest?
Norm argues Whites were propagandized to see ingroup sentiment as low status
Norm discusses an article called Brazil and the Negro about efforts to bleach Brazil in the early twentieth century
Walter argues middle class people actually benefit from degrading the lower orders via mixing/immigration because this allows them to have servants etc.
Walt contends that Norm’s counterexample to Castizo Futurism of Brazil doesn’t work because it was done with Black people instead of Amerindians
Walt’s “Justice League” model for White leadership
Walt argues it’s empirically true that Castizo Futurism works splendidly well in Florida / Texas but probably can’t in Arizona / California
The exact definition of species and subspecies and where we draw the line
Hybrid vigor vs. hybrid depression
The Obama Administration was overwhelmingly mulatto
Norm argues that diversity decreases trust… but is bowling alone really such a terrible thing? Walter makes the case that social capital is actually bad.
The impact of paleolithic bride abduction on female psychology
Walt argues the American racial dialectic is distorted by the historic salience of blacks and we inappropriately apply a black brush to other races
Norman details the brutal Big Man nature of African society
Similarities between Celts and Blacks—Walt sort of acts like a rich black guy
White men frequently use black sexual aggression in rap music etc. to channel their own pathologically suppressed masculinity and predatory urges
The European knight’s chivalry exists in the context of his brutality
Walt argues that American men are generally more masculine than European men because we regularly interact with blacks
Women are allowed to write about wanting to be raped, but men aren’t really allowed to write about wanting to rape women
We’ve become too autistic to know the difference between a “yes no” and “no no”
The way we talk about consent is unnatural and doesn’t track with the normal expression of heteronormie boy-girl sexuality
The femme fatale fantasy is to men what the rape fantasy is to women
Norm argues outbreeding depression is worse than inbreeding depression
Why Walt Bismarck supports foreign empire
Walt argues that White people will always be on top in multiculturalism, and the WN impulse comes mostly from quirks in Anglo / Teutonic cognition
Farmers make the best soldiers because they can handle boredom and repetition
Walt argues a society can become hyper-agentic and experience a Golden Age when it’s faced with an arbitrage opportunity (e.g. Portugal in 1450) or has lots of elite minorities like Jews and Brahmins to compete with native elites
Walt became more like his current self specifically because of impactful personal experiences with Jews (read The Goy Who Lived and Women Don’t Have Agency)
Norm’s model for “cultural interfacing”—does modern American urban enclavism / geographic variance count as an example? Norm says no.
Lots of people naturally prefer the high cortisol lifestyle because they’re enervated by slow lifestyle environments like Nebraska
Walter argues that White Nationalists generally fulfill all the stereotypes they accuse Jews of (being deceitful / stingy) and that upscale WNs specifically tend to have a distinctly Jewish cognitive architecture
Walt explains how philosemitism and antisemitism are actually a horseshoe
Walt argues that Jews *are* more likely to betray you… but are also more likely to befriend / help you out relatively quickly when there’s a real connection, whereas it takes absolutely forever to win ingroup status with a stolid Teuton
Walt thinks Jews and Irish are cognitively similar in lots of ways
How Nick Mullen vs. Adam Friedland epitomize the Irish vs. Jew dynamic
Walt argues that the Irish were just as corrupt as the Jews in seizing power in America, and if anything did a significantly better job at it
German/WASPs in the Midwest will obfuscate underpaying their employees through shallow performative egalitarianism
Norm argues that the Jew / Irish similarity comes from a shared cultural faculty for playing with metaphysical frameworks and narratives
Walt explains the intro song
Jews and Irish both had to use various cracks and crevices in society to advance historically because they didn’t control their own country
If you want to love the rose you need to love the thorns; if you love Kanye for his musical innovations you can’t hate his love for Hitler!
Jews manipulate people by weaponizing the letter of the law, which infuriates Germans who are positively obsessed with the spirit of the law. Meanwhile the Irish don’t care about the law to begin with, so they can verbally dominate Jews.
When they get a shabbos goy to do shit for them on Shabbat are The Jews trying to Jew god or are they actually being Promethean and based?
Jews are cognitively hyper-specialized for debate—how this relates to the famous story of the Knight of Cluny beating a Ben Shapiro rabbi with a cane so he doesn’t bamboozle grug Christians: “when you encounter a Jew, don’t let him talk.”
Norm explains how the German understanding of truth is very straightforward, whereas the Jews prefer a more relativistic conception. Walt says the Jewish take is more agreeable to him and serves his interests better.
Chesterton’s Fence and the value of tradition
Why shouldn’t we enslave the grugs? Norman argues Jews are Obligate Slavers but wypipo are not (Walt says he is)
Walt argues that different White ethnic groups have different interests and that he relates to the interests of Jews more than those of plains Teutons
Jews have massively declined in power because of outbreeding / brown zoomers
Is civilizational entropy a feature or a bug?
How the elimination of smaller wildfires in the early 20th century was devastating to forest ecologies, such that the wildfires that did surface eventually obliterated them—Norm relates this to civilizational entropy in the modern West
Walt argues the JQ is passe because Jews are breeding themselves out of existence—tons of Jews are mischlings these days, and there isn’t the same paranoia
Walt instinctively identifies Faust with Mephistopheles—Norm does not
Why Nietzsche saved his most vicious criticism for the Germans
Norm explains why WNs tend to over-romanticize Germans
Norm compares Jews unfavorably to gypsies and Hutterites, who he argues have similar cultural tendencies but don’t try to shake the pillars of society
Walt argues that Disney’s Hunchback is implicitly a story about Jews told through gypsies as a framing device
The Dissident Right assumes the German way of looking at the world is objectively best, but Irish and Italians generally hate that way of life
Walt explains how he solved the Jewish Question
Walt views the Germans as scary, Norm views the Jews as scary
Norm tells the story of being terrified by a litigious Jew rubbing his hands together trying to catch him on a technicality
Walt thinks Jewish women would love Norm
Norm warns Walt not to become dependent on Jewish money
Walt argues that IQ Shredders are actually good because they prevent speciation through assortative mating
Norm theorizes that clerical celibacy decreases the autism rate
Stew Peters vs. Walt’s approach to cultivating an audience he’ll never alienate by “hiding in plain sight” and being equally edgy in both directions
Walt connects his experience with sugaring to artistic patronage systems
Having 100,000 rando poor people as fans isn’t especially valuable
Norm advises Walt not to become overly dependent on any single patron
Lots of White nationalists will insist that you need to be as direct as possible about “the truth” because pain itself is the point
Norm cites Nietzsche—mediocrity is torture for exceptional people, but offers genuine happiness for people who are themselves mediocre
How Walt and Norm benefit from the other’s presence a la MLK vs. Malcom X
Norm explains why race blindness is deeply immoral
Racial dialectics are more complex than most WNs would like to admit
You can’t let grugs run any movement
Jewish grugs were the ones writing antiwhite Buzzfeed tracts in 2014
Norm and Walt impersonate Jared Taylor
Norm cites a study showing that AmRen attendees have an average IQ of 115—Walter immediately brags that his audience has an average IQ of 125
WNs in the Pacific Northwest vs. Dixie vs. the Northeast are totally different
Walter recalls how he got an immediate threat response from German WNs who were contemptuously reading his viral article about the Midwest
Norm explains how cowboys are higher openness than farmers
Walt relays how he helped a Nebraskan farm boy negotiate a much higher salary and actualize his Faustian Spirit
Walt explains why black people are like dragon type Pokémon
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